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stickseller) wrote2015-03-20 06:13 pm
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You've reached Howard Stark. I'm probably doing something important,
if you think whatever you need is important, contact Edwin Jarvis.
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he calls it smth else tho jsyk
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(No. No he does not. The future is ????)¨
People shouldn't be trying to recreate the serum. It's not just the formula that's important. It's the person it's used on even more.
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'look we got joe mcbeefy 12 meds o honor perf candidate rite??'
wrong
i know how it works. i never fucked around w it bc i had better shit to do, but apparently some others thought ur boy cap was the end all be all [ not that tony can blame them. for a while there, so did he. and for while there, he thought, so did howard, if the way howard reacted to any news of steve seemed to be. but tony might be fuzzy on the details.
what he does know is this: whatever it is he had with his father? it wasn't bad. it could definitely haven been worse, just as it could haven been better. but who really knows?
whatever. enough internal chitchat. ]
ok this is all cool but back 2 the 1st q i had, wtf was that convo abt???
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Steve was a necessity of the times, but if there's no war, there's no need for a super soldier. (Howard could go on waxing poetically about Steve!!!!! but he is going to not for now. Mostly because he's sure Tony's heard it all before. Steve wasn't just a super soldier, he was a symbol of the American hope and freedom and the rise of the little man to something great.
Internal chitchat is important though. Howard is mostly just trying the avoidance tactic but apparently his son knows it too well!! Gosh darn.
He's still a little squinty at the typing.)
I must have mentioned Barnes to you when you were a boy, didn't I? We thought he was KIA when he fell from the train where we captured Zola. It turns out we were wrong. He had some rough times after that.
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ya they tried 2 take iron man from me 2 aft i'd stopped taking new contracts. guess who won the congressional hearing \o/
[ squint away old man. anyway. ] ofc i know who he is i mean hes n all the fuckin comic books n shit, all the rogers profiles w/e 'bucky barnes, biffle 4 eva 2 steve rodgers' basically is the gist.
so whats his tie to u?
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Did you get a treason charge against you, too? I probably shouldn't find this as funny as I do. There's a great satisfaction in getting public apologies after they get their heads out of their asses, even if it's only for a few seconds.
The comics in my day had him as a kid sometimes. He was furious. It was hilarious.
But yeah, we worked together a lot. He was a sniper, and so I would design guns to his specs. Every time he came back he'd have five things he'd want improved, so he always have me a challenge to work with. And he didn't hold his tongue around me either, which was refreshing. (aka he likes barnes a lot and maybe that's why this whole situation has him as upset as it does.)
How much do you know about the SSR?
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not treason, just served. nothing happened, bc i am awesome like that and they had fuck all to stand on anyway & they knew it. rhodey and me got medals! [ and stern didn't ruin it, even though it wasn't the first medal tony had ever been given, it might well haven been within the cumulative handful that he actually earned. he's still happy about it, in that secretive way where he won't tell anyone how happy it makes him. ]
ssr? you helped make it - learned that like, uh. not that long ago. 6mo-1yr?? somewhere around there. coulda told me.
[ and he regrets saying that almost immediately, because yes howard could have told him, but this is a.... how do you say it? a different howard? not quite. an earlier howard. whatever. it's a howard that doesn't quite deserve the responses he's getting from tony, but at the same time tony genuinely just can't seem to help himself. between that and needing to know everything and wanting to fix this shit with his dad and absorbing everything else happening in the city and everything he's trying to do with the company -----
tony has very little time or energy left for other things. ]
what do i need 2 kno abt the ssr
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I guess that's a good thing? Treason charges are never a good time. Medals, huh? I never got any of those. I should revolt when I get back. I deserve something, gosh darn.
It was probably too classified. It was classified back then, too. No one, publicly, knew that I was a part of it during the war, for security reasons. Didn't want to make me more of a target then I already was.
(At least he doesn't take it too much to heart right now, since he can't hear the tone of it. it's more reasoning things logically why he may not have. He's trying his best, though, to explain without really explaining properly. Or, if nothing else, to not be as upset about it all as he is.)
The SSR was, by far and large, created to combat the Nazi's science division, HYDRA, because they, even early on, were deviating from the party and becoming more extreme. I'm sure you know about Schmidt and Erskine and Rogers. But there was a lot more experimentation on people that they conducted that was kept quiet. Mostly because the people died. Sometimes horrifically mutilated as a reaction the serum, and why I'm so against attempting to recreate it. I...guess they must have put on version in Barnes, which helped him survive the fall.
We should have looked for him, but we didn't know where he'd fallen, it was snowing, and we didn't think he could have survived.
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i have a feeling treason wasnt 2 far away but luckily another bad guy showed up & they needed my help again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
u get plenty of awards old man calm your tits
[ he absorbs the rest of that information though, incorporating it with what he does know already and slotting new things into places holes and gaps had previously been. some of this has all since come to light what with his own involvement with shield and the "perks" that involved being close to them. he'd known on a more abstract level that the serum was attempted by several different people hundreds of times, but most of the more definitive or concrete knowledge has always been either lost or classified. well, everyone aside from bruce.
he might have to discuss some of the thoughts out - he's getting most of them, but it's so easy to type one train of thought while thinking through three others without noticing ]
but u looked 4 cap for like 50 years
i mean tech. u looked so long that technically I was looking 4 cap
u never looked 4 bucky? cap mustve known where it was
[ which sounds accusatory, but it's not. just curious - honestly, cap had strategy, a nearly photographic memory, how did no one have an idea where barnes fell?
of course, as soon as he thinks this, he remembers the reasons he came up with before for why someone wouldn't have remembered: it was a two mile stretch, cap was busy otherwise, there was so much left to happen during the mission, more important things to remember (although nine year old Tony thought nothing was more important; 45 year old Tony knew better), train tracks tend to follow a pretty specific route, &c. &c. ]
u never tried to do it urself? recreate the serum?